Why do people always hate on the big 10?

Ohio st. ,Michigan, Penn st., Michigan st., Iowa,Northwestern ,Minnesota ,Notre Dame and Pitt consistently send players to the NFL. Most of their players usually go in the top 3 rounds.Ohio st., Michigan , Penn st. ,Notre Dame Northwestern, Michigan st.,Pitt,and Iowa are usually ranked . Ohio st. Penn st. and Michigan in recent years have consistently been in the top 15. Ohio st. and


Michigan have also been consistently in the title hunt and have 2 and played in 3 within the last 10 years. If the rules don't force you to play a conference title game why are you doing it . The schedule should be set anyway with12 games and then a top 16 team playoff . You utilize the other bowls have the second round at 4 of the BCS bowls and have the title game . You can use the current system by moving the title game between the Rose ,orange, fiesta, sugar ,and cotton bowls every year.

Why do people always hate on the big 10?
because they are jealous that the big ten is the best conference in the NCAA i dont care what anyone says
Reply:People hate on the big ten because most of the times that the Big 10 plays a team with a spread offense they look like a bunch of 5th graders trying to do trigonometry. Your right that there are a lot of good coaches in the big ten that can develop players for the pros but being a great player doesn't mean you have a good team. When big ten teams get to the title games they generally get creamed. Look at OSU last year. OSU this year will have a very tough time being in LSU's home state and major crowd advantage.
Reply:People hate the Big 10 because they can't count. Eleven teams people.





PS: You do know that Notre Dame and Pitt are not in the Big Eleven right? So why are you discussing them?
Reply:Because the Big Ten is tradition.





They can't stand the fact that the Big Ten is consistently a great conference and the fact that the conference is much richer in tradition than their conference.





It all boils down to jealousy.
Reply:im a big 10 fan





notre dame is not big ten
Reply:big 10 fans need to be honest...this was a down year. michigan and penn state both underachieved. wisconisin had injuries up the wazoo. and minnesota/northwester took the year off. illinois was a bright spot (biggest turn around in Div-1) they will probably be 2-4 in bowl games...





and why are you including pitt and notre dame in the conversation????
Reply:ok first off.. as sum1 else stated.. notre dame and pitt aren't in the big 10.. nd has an independent schedule and pitt is in the big east.. secondly, u can't use a 16 team playoff system cuz then u have four loss teams having a chance at the national title and the chance of the number one team winning four games in a row becomes increasingly more difficult (similar to march madness).. and in response ppl dont hate on the big 10 in general just in specific years (like every1 does with every conference) such as this year they r cuz they have 3-4 legit teams in comparison to the sec, big 12 (best conference this year), etc.. I dont think many can argue the big 10 doesnt have a very rich tradition-- michigan, ohio state, wisconsin, etc..
Reply:Is this even a question or did you simply want to put your two cents worth in about your teams?
Reply:It's pretty simple really. People hate the Big Ten because their team isn't in it. That's it. People on here that say the SEC is better are just louder than Big Ten fans, or have more free time.





If you want to have an intelligent conversation about sports, don't look for it on the internet. People have no respect for others, and would rather spout out crap than look up stats to make a reasonable argument. And I have a feeling the SEC fans that actually do the research to attempt to make an argument find out that they're wrong and disappear.
Reply:Ron zook
Reply:Most years it's just rivalry. Big 10 has the history of dominance and tradition, while the SEC is relatively new to the party with broad school success, and frankly has surpassed the Big 10 as far as depth of tough teams. Over the last 10 years the SEC puts teams in the title game about every other year and has 4 different champs, while the Big Ten outside of Ohio State really hasn't brought that kind of supreme performance to the table over that period. Michgan really hasn't been a true title contender this decade, and Penn State has dropped off a cliff.





SEC fans are as zealous if not more than Big 10 fans, and that creates rivalries and friction, regardless of what reality may be. SEC fans want their recent track record to demonstrate bragging rights, while Big 10 fans want their history to support them as the best conference.








This year is a bit different. It goes beyond rivalries. The fact is that the Big 10 was flat out bad this year. Michigan was awful. Wisconsin was overrated. Ohio State therefore had a cakewalk into the title game (not all their fault), and many feel they don't deserve to be there. Getting blown out last year by a Florida team that struggled greatly in the SEC didn't help matters.





That issue is compounded by the Big 10's refusal to play a conference title game, regardless of what the rules say. IF you want credit for your achievements, you must achieve the same goals as your competition and be a true conference champion.





I don't think anyone would argue that the Big 10 produces their share of NFL players. They obviously do.





There is just a legitimate question as to whether they continue to be an elite conference from top to bottom given the recent history of the conference, particularly compared to the SEC.





These things go in cycles, and right now the SEC is just deeper. That may change, but some question if the style of football prevalent in the Big 10 is enough to draw the supreme speed athletes that SEC teams have -- not just at skill positions but at spots like TE and linebacker.





Last year's OSU debacle really fueled the fire, as it certainly appeared that the Big 10s best couldn't play with a UF team that was not all that dominant in the SEC.





IF LSU does the same, things will only get worse.





As for facts, the Big 10 may want to hide: Since 1996, the SEC has won titles with UF (twice) LSU, and UT, not to mention Auburn's undefeated 2004 season.


In that same timeframe, the Big 10 has one shared title by Michigan in 1997 and one Ohio State title.


Those are the facts.


Go back 10 years prior, no Big 10 titles (PSU not in the Big 10 then), one SEC one. Ten years before that, 3 SEC tiltes ZERO big 10 ones. Again all facts in the last 30 years.
Reply:b/c the Big Ten rocks and they're jealous.
Reply:Well #1 mistake - PITT IS A BIG EAST SCHOOL!! And NOTRE DAME IS TECHNICALLY A BIG EAST SCHOOL UNDER AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACT!! geez...know your facts before asking a question. Sorry, it had to be said...





Now to answer your question - People don't always "Hate on the big 10." They have been "hating" on them the past year or two because the conference, in general is going through a rough patch. Yes, the Big 10 goes to a lot of bowls every year, but half of that is because they are contracted and the other half is because the bowls are still going back on History instead of what is in the present.





History - The Big 10 was one of the most dominant football conferences in the country. Winning national titles and bowl games left and right.





Now - The Big 10 lost a lot of talent (graduating, going to the pros, TRANSFERRING, etc.). They lost a lot of their bowls last year and LOOK like they are going to lose a lot of their bowl games this year.





Understand, this isn't because they are necessarily "bad." But it's because they are rebuilding. It's ok. It happens to all conferences. The problem for Big 10 fans is that you all were so used to winning all the time that now a lot of you don't know how to be good losers (meaning behaved, etc.). Don't worry, I see the Big 10 coming back...but it might not happen next year...but the following year. No worries...





Oh and as far as recruits to the NFL - you would be surprised how many players have come out from every conference in the past couple years.





I hope this helped. OH, and what you are 100% right on is the 16 game playoff. There needs to be a playoff system, and if, as the one guy above said, the "best" teams can't handle 4 loss teams because they have to play four games to get to the title game...then maybe they weren't the "best". Sorry, that argument was bad at best.
Reply:I guess because people here on YA are not from the Midwest and so they do not understand the importance Big Ten football has in the Midwest.
Reply:This is easy. They play a garbage out of conference schedule then lose ala Mich. vs Appl. State. They have a bunch of terrible teams that make the few good teams look great. Most of all most so called experts have their nose up the conferences azz.
Reply:because it is fun to watch the crybaby reaction of the big 10 fans.





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Reply:Didn't you forget App. St. ?????? Oh wait their 2A, but didn't they still beat.............nevermind. Your whole conference should be 2A.
Reply:As an IU grad student, it bugs me that there are eleven schools in the Big10.





I think they also hate because there is a big-10 bias, since alot of journalists went to Northwestern and to a lesser extent the other schools.





Sheer size... Some of the largest student populations and biggest stadiums in the country.
Reply:because we are tired of the east coast sportswriters that think the suna dnmoon rose in the Big Ten and around Notre Dame. Now they are adding in the Big East and ACC to there mix and all are over rated. ie OSU losing to Florida last year. An average Illinois team with a below average QB making the highly touted OSU linebackers look like high school players. and still OSU is in the title game. These guys couldn't beat Hawaii. Another reason, most of us could care less about the OSU-Michigan game, yet regional coverage from ABC and ESPN was interrupted here in the west so we could see that game. Two of my teams were playing but I couldn't see them. So, I turned off the TV and went shopping with my wife, ugh. That's why we hate the Big Ten, all of you East Coaster want to tell the rest of us who what when where and why, but we don't care and we are tired of watching and listening to your crap, especially your crying when you lose.